Blizzard Is Letting Go Of Old Stubborness - Preach Gaming Interview Recap
They may just mean on release, not including the patches; hard to tell from how it's written though
In the context of the video interview, there was nothing contextualizing what "shrinkflation" meant, so even with the video it was hard to tell to be honest.
But then, Ion had always answered things without answering them, most of the interview didn't have that (in fact, this upcoming expansion has had the most answers proprerly answered in a long time)- but that question was answered much like the questions of previous expansions as words with 0 answers.
Comment by Alendar
on 2023-11-18T02:40:06-06:00But, thats NOT the concern players are having in regards to Shrinkflation! Its the number of patches we get AFTER expansion launch- which is a part of what we pay for when we purchase a new expansion.
I'm not sure if they realize this, or do and are choosing to PR spin it and are acting stupid (they may genuinely just not know)
But the answer was really a no response about shrinkflation imo.
This exactly. Would be amazing if they could somehow clarify that we can expect up to X.2 each expansion MINIMUM, but I highly doubt they'll stick to that specific of a plan for years in advance.
Comment by Cuphat
on 2023-11-18T02:53:56-06:00The shrinkflation answer seemed straightforward to me: the answer is "no, we do not intend to have quicker, smaller expansions, but it'd be good if we could not have a huge gap of no content." Just a basic answer that just because they announced the general synopsis of 3 expansions at once doesn't mean that they are 3 small expansions to be churned through quickly.
Of course, that doesn't mean that The War Within and future expansions will actually hit that target, and I really doubt that they'd say "yes, we are going to deliver less content" if that was their plan, but the answer was pretty clearly a "the goal is to give as much content as Dragonflight/recent expansions".
Comment by AngryPom
on 2023-11-18T03:07:58-06:00Blizzard Is Letting Go Of Old Stubborness vs 80% dragon riding speed in old world. Yea true, absolutely true, I believe in it.
Comment by Luck4
on 2023-11-18T03:08:07-06:00I would rather pay double and wait three years for a soft-reboot expansion in Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor than small yearly expansions that'll only add more bloat to the game.
Blizzard is missing the big picture. Classic has zero new content and has a large audience, while Retail, with all the resources, isn't much further ahead. This should be taken as a warning signal, but as usual, Blizzard is too greedy and slow to see the big picture.
It's baffling now that we see how Classic/Vanilla being good wasn't just a fallacy, that Blizzard didn't change Retail in any regard towards that direction. Instead, it only got worse gameplay-wise, and it's even more baffling now seeing so many people vehemently against Cataclysm Classic.
Dragonflight proved that people don't care about content release cadence if the gameplay is bad, nor that a good/grounded story was what we needed.
Comment by rhymeswthwich
on 2023-11-18T03:13:03-06:00An expansion is 3 - 5 raids, 8 - 10 dungeons and 4 - 6 zones from history.
Will they keep it to a minimum instead this time around with faster releases?
He doesn't actually say that. what he says is we know TWW has four zones, 8 dungeons and a raid, Midnight will have four zones, dungeons and a raid - he doesn't mention an amount of dungeons and he doesn't mention The last Titan at all.
He doesn't mean that literally every expac will have exactly four zones, 8 dungeons and a a raid and Wowhead should feel a little ashamed of such a shoddy and misleading article
also, quite sure he is talking about at release.
Comment by hobbidaggy
on 2023-11-18T03:31:47-06:00An expansion is 3 - 5 raids, 8 - 10 dungeons and 4 - 6 zones from history.
Will they keep it to a minimum instead this time around with faster releases?
Yeah I miss having a new dungeon added that ties in with the raid being released. It was a fun thing having some dungeons that you went and completed which told a bit of story at the same time. I think it stopped around MoP. Now we just get some ‘season dungeons’ tossed into the mythic+ pool to make people happy and a ‘megadungeon’ somewhere in there
Comment by hobbidaggy
on 2023-11-18T03:31:49-06:00An expansion is 3 - 5 raids, 8 - 10 dungeons and 4 - 6 zones from history.
Will they keep it to a minimum instead this time around with faster releases?
Yeah I miss having a new dungeon added that ties in with the raid being released. It was a fun thing having some dungeons that you went and completed which told a bit of story at the same time. I think it stopped around MoP. Now we just get some ‘season dungeons’ tossed into the mythic+ pool to make people happy and a ‘megadungeon’ somewhere in there
Comment by Rockyy
on 2023-11-18T03:32:17-06:00Tragic, they're probably giving up the last good parts of the game... At least there's classic.
You won't believe me, but remember this, the games quality is going to tank ever further than it already has since legion. WoW is going to be a ****show
Comment by Kilifizz
on 2023-11-18T03:34:29-06:00"They learned to evolve their philosophy from player feedback and their own experiences playing the game."
Yes we begin to see a difference
Comment by Mattysaiyan
on 2023-11-18T03:35:40-06:00I'm sure you've given them your well constructed feedback based on PTR testing and not just "they nerfed my 1100% mount speed for a smaller continent!"
Comment by Crusherix
on 2023-11-18T03:37:17-06:00I for one wouldn't mind if an expansion lasted 3 years if they had stories to tell.
WOD were criminally cut both in time and content. Plenty of cut content because they rather push out another expansion.
Comment by morgath99
on 2023-11-18T03:40:58-06:00hope they leave the stubbornness of taking interviews from people that said that they will never gonna play the game again then change their mind when other games don't pay the bills .
Comment by NokoFace
on 2023-11-18T03:41:32-06:00You won't believe me, but remember this, the games quality is going to tank ever further than it already has since legion. WoW is going to be a ****show
...because I'm not punished for changing characters from the character I've played for 10 years anymore?
Touch grass.
Comment by grayshirt
on 2023-11-18T03:45:59-06:004 zones seems kinda small when you compare it to expansions like TBC & Wrath.
Also 8 dungeons has never felt like enough for M+ variety season after season. Maybe work on increasing that number? Either in the initial offering of dungeons (e.g. add more than 8 but only use 8 for the first season) or with larger additions mid expansion. Have a set of 2-3 dungeons release ahead of a season and just have them added to the pool right away instead of them spending one season in limbo as only M0.
