Datamined Season 3 Mythic+ Dungeon Tuning - DOTI Nerfed, Other Dungeons Buffed

PTR Posted 2023/10/19 at 11:46 AM by Squishei

Waycrest Manor

Huntmaster Grath's Blazing Toss damage reduced by 33%

Thistle Acolyte's Drain Essence damage increased by 10%

Heartsbane Triad

Aura of Dread damage increased by 11%

Soulbound Goliath

Soul Thorns damage increased by 62.5%

Wildfire damage increased by 87.5%

Atal'Dazar

Reanimated Honor Guard Battering Maul range increased to 10 yds (possibly to remove Fervant?)

Zanchuli Witch-Doctor Venom Blast damage increased by 3.8%

Vol'kaal

Toxic Pool damage reduced by 25%

Yazma

Shadowy Remains damage increased by 84.6%

Throne of the Tides

Naz'jar Sentinel's Crushing Depths healing absorb reduced by 25%

Mindbender Ghur'sha

Terrifying Vision cast time increased to 5 sec (was 4 sec)

Ozumat

Blotting Barrage damage reduced by 4.1%

Ink Blast now only targets players.

Dawn of the Infinites

Alliance NPCs (Horde Player) in Time-Lost Battlefield now give count (was only Horde NPCs)

Timeline Marauder's Displace Chronosequence cast time increased to 2.5 sec (was 1.5 sec)

Infinite Timebender's Dizzying Sands now does damage.

Infinite Twilight Magus's Epoch Bolt damage increased by 133% and cast time increased to 2.5 sec (was 2 sec)

Many creatures' Infinite Fury damage reduced by 25%

Timeline Marauder's Infinite Schism damage reduced by 25%

Time-Lost Battlefield

Serrated Axe damage reduced by 10%

Chrono-Lord Deios

Infinite Corruption unavoidable damage reduced by 28.6%

Darkheart Thicket

Festerhide Grizzly's Corruption Pool damage increased by 42.8%

Frenzied Nightclaw's Grievous Rip initial damage increased by 25%

Archdruid Glaidalis

Primal Rampage now ignores line of sight.

Shade of Xavius

Feed on the Weak damage increased by 50%

Black Rook Hold

Risen Scout's Knife Dance damage increased by 14% and cast time reduced to 1 sec (was 2.5)

Ghostly Retainer's Soul Blade initial damage increased by 60% and periodic damage increased by 78.3%

Risen Lancer's Raven's Dive's animation should now always show.

Everbloom

Twisted Abomination's Poisonous Claws range decreased to 10 yards (was 30 yards)

Comment by duranoxSchism and Fury nerfed is good considering the last pack of the dungeon will probably be hell on fort.Comment by AedionMorrisWhy are we buffing the older dungeons that were always problematic on Mythic+ when current content. Why why why?Comment by rusbyCan't wait for Waycrest Manor sisters fight to brick keys completely. I remeber distinctly on tyrannical weeks so many pug would just give up on keys after wiping 3 times on that bossComment by SomeKeedWhy didn't they nerf the dogs in Throne of Tides, seems a little odd but overall a lot better for all the dungeons either wayComment by Bonkystill no change to morgie timers...Comment by PerkoPWhy are we buffing the older dungeons that were always problematic on Mythic+ when current content. Why why why?Comment by ZannusThey still need to do something about afflicted and incorporeal and some classes/specs having no way to positively interact with them.Comment by NarhwalsI don't know whether or not these changes are good. I need Tomrus' opinion on thisComment by SchattensangI kinda want to talk about these numbers that they are doing. Because who in their right mind goes "This ability needs to do exactly 42.8% more damage. Not 40%, not 45%, not even 42.5%. But exactly 42.8%"

I mean, these abilities already do vastly random numbers with 41198 damage.Comment by TastelikelemonM+ tuning is based on the data collected from ptr and beta , which are mostly "tested" by players from top guilds or MDI ones , after which the tuning comes and when it hits live servers , majority of dungeons are overtuned and i feel this trend to never changes. We gona see all those "buffs" nerfed within the first month after patch release.Comment by SchattensangM+ tuning is based on the data collected from ptr and beta , which are mostly "tested" by players from top guilds or MDI ones , after which the tuning comes and when it hits live servers , majority of dungeons are overtuned and i feel this trend to never changes. We gona see all those "buffs" nerfed within the first month after patch release.Comment by ZartharionAccording to my friend TOMRUS, all dungeons still need -50% nerf HP and damage on both adds and boss. And +5 minutes timer.Comment by sonic1226people are doing 29, 30's on PTR when they are ilvl 440. We will be 480ish. +18s will be an uber joke, and we might see people get to +40s for the first time. I guess it doesn't matter since there is no point in doing dungeons on the next patch, since raid gear and CRAFTED gear will be so much stronger than anythingu can get on ur weekly M+ vaultComment by MrPotatoHeadpeople are doing 29, 30's on PTR when they are ilvl 440. We will be 480ish. +18s will be an uber joke, and we might see people get to +40s for the first time. I guess it doesn't matter since there is no point in doing dungeons on the next patch, since raid gear and CRAFTED gear will be so much stronger than anythingu can get on ur weekly M+ vaultComment by DindongPeople keep commenting on how these dungeons were in previous expansion and how they shouldnt be buffed cause of how they remember them, without actually having tried a single one of them in ptr. Timing non doti dungeons was currently (and still is tbf) really easy. Timers are so forgiving that im afraid its going to be another aug season where survivability is the king.Comment by Schattensangpeople are doing 29, 30's on PTR when they are ilvl 440. We will be 480ish. +18s will be an uber joke, and we might see people get to +40s for the first time. I guess it doesn't matter since there is no point in doing dungeons on the next patch, since raid gear and CRAFTED gear will be so much stronger than anythingu can get on ur weekly M+ vaultComment by lovelywazWhy are we buffing the older dungeons that were always problematic on Mythic+ when current content. Why why why?Heart of AzerothComment by hippostarAccording to my friend TOMRUS, all dungeons still need -50% nerf HP and damage on both adds and boss. And +5 minutes timer.