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Comment by Nulgar

....If this patch doesn't introduce a new bag specifically for such items, this is going to be terrible.
Of course you won't need to hold onto all of these items, you can vendor/delete them after obtaining them. And the pets are learned and thus removed from your inventory as well. But some of those, you may want to hold onto.

Note: Even though several of these items already dropped from normal Pandaria rares, like Forager's Gloves and Crystal of Insanity, the achievement will not count them if you looted them before 5.4 and then vendored/deleted them. I think it will count them if you have them in your possession when 5.4 hits, but even that is uncertain.

Comment by Furydeath

"We don't want you holding onto every item in the game" ~Blizz

So we are going to add ton more items.

Comment by Arikara

This.

This is MY achievement!

-A Collector

Comment by Daviddicks

It is interesting that you need the Reins of the thundering cloud serpent as a criteria too.

Comment by Pwnzoar

Dammit Blizzard, I just did my spring cleaning.

Comment by ED209

Many of these items can be found in different places: drops from rares on mainland Pandaria, drops from rares residing on the Timeless Isle, a newly discovered land located off the south-eastern coast of The Jade Forest. Some of the rares spawn during events on the Timeless Isle itself.
Source information for a great deal of the new items can be found here:
http://www.wowhead.com/news=217349/5-4-ptr-timeless-isle-vanity-loot

Comment by Voxxel

Patch 5.4.8.: This achievement is now Account-wide.

LIST OF LOCATIONS in alphabetical order:

Old MoP items - most of them are retroactive.

Timeless Isle items:

New battle pets:

Ashleaf Spriteling - Drop from Leafmender
Azure Crane Chick - Loot from Crane Nests
Bonkers - Loot from Master Kukuru's chests
Dandelion Frolicker - Drop from Scary Sprites that spawn exclusively in the Neverending Spritewood event. You can find more info here.
Death Adder Hatchling - Drop from Imperial Python
Gulp Froglet - Drop from Bufo
Jadefire Spirit - Drop from Spirit of Jadefire
Jademist Dancer - Drop from Jademist Dancer
Ominous Flame - Drop from Foreboding Flame
Ruby Droplet - Drop from Garnia
Skunky Alemental - Drop from Zhu-Gon the Sour
Spineclaw Crab - Drop from Monstrous Spineclaw
Swarmling of Gu'chi - Drop from Gu'chi the Swarmbringer

Comment by mredovan

"You're gonna need a bigger boat."
- Martin Brody, Jaws

Love the homage to one of the best ad-libbed lines ever.

Comment by Cryndie

Goddamit Blizzard. Why aren't these at least BoA!

Comment by Hawkyyy

As someone who has about 5 free slots at the moment, i died inside a little when i saw this achievement. Its going to be tough.

Comment by 730641

This is getting crazy. With so many cool things like these in game, I think having more room to actually keep more of them would encourage people to get out into the world and seek these items out. Blizzard get more people out and about in the world, we get to play with our toy collection more without overflowing our bags, everybody wins.

So, Blizzard, pretty please -

Vanity Items Spellbook Tab.

Comment by Soeroah

This achievement seems to be bugged currently. I looted a Big Bag of Herbs, have it sitting in my bags, have re-logged, and still the achievement is not giving credit for it. It did, however, give credit for a few rare items I got elsewhere.

Comment by Nagassh

Be aware that this achievement criteria is NOT account wide, looting items on your alts (and using alts to camp spawns like Garnia, which is a pain to reach) will not give you credit and require you to farm that item again on your main.

Comment by Smallfoot

The title makes it official: Someone on the dev team is a sadist.

Comment by Mormolyce

Dear god in heaven, if they refuse to make vanity items BoA, give us more storage, more void storage, or an account-wide storage facility, AT LEAST make achievements like this account level progress.

Comment by Taoma

I can confirm that looting Huge Bag of Herbs from Lon the Bull does not count towards the achievement :(

Comment by Faell

I bought an Ominous Flame pet from the AH pet this morning and learned it. I did not receive credit for it on the achievement. It appears you need to actually loot them items, or at least pets, to receive credit.

Comment by oberondreaming

Like all achievements that aren't meta-achievements, progress toward this achievement is not shared across your battle.net account, so if you're going for this one, you probably want to pick a single character to focus on doing Timeless Isle stuff on. It would really suck to have to get, say, the mount a second time because the first time you looted it on a different character.

Comment by DeathMaster

A bit of an underwhelming achievement is it not? Considering the time I've invested so far, and how many things I've been able to cross off the list... this is going to take about a year. If I'm lucky.

~~Not Account-Wide.~~
Worth 10 points.
No final reward/title.

It's like they don't even want you to complete it.

Edit: Account wide since 5.4.8

Comment by kellyislame

Given the rarity of some of these items this achievement should definitely award more than 10 points. I have been out on the Isle pretty much non-stop since the patch hit on Tuesday and I don't even have half of these items yet =/

Comment by taohu

Worst drop rates ever for the items... I think i can get luckier farming 1% mounts.

EDIT: I finally finished this... Zesqua was my last one, took 2weeks+ of camping just it for the stone. Worst drop rates ever.

EDIT2: Some help for the guys still trying out there. While doing the achievement, i noted that all rares except Golganarr have a respawn time between 30-60mins. With this in mind, make sure you note down kill times in a notepad as you circle around the island looking. For rares who have been dead for less than 30mins, don't make the detour to check the spawn, it won't be there.

At the start, focus more on actively hunting the items from rares that are in awkward spots to get to, such as Garnia, Rock Moss etc. Eventually, you want to narrow down the rares you need to a smaller confined area so you can effectively just patrol between spawns, to eventually camping them. In the final stretch of the achievement, you can simply camp an area and just logout for 30mins after the rares of interest are killed.

PS: All rares except Golgonarr are up right after a server restart.

Comment by culex69

They should rename this achievement to "Are you nuts?" because you pretty much are going to go insane trying to get all of these items. If it wasn't bad enough that you actually have to camp a rare to get a kill, the drop rate of these rare items are horrible. I have been out on the isle since the patch launched pretty much 95% of the time i am online with 11 different characters and have only seen a few of the rare drops. Huolon is the worst, i have been killing him on all 11 of my characters for 8 days now and still have not seen the mount >.> .

Comment by IdTheDemon

Sadly, pets don't count unless you loot them from the mob on the character you're getting the entire achievement on. Getting them on an alt and mailing them to your main won't give your main credit. I assume buying the pets does the same thing.

I had an alt logged at Ruby Lake for quick Garnia kills. After a ton of kills, I finally loot the Ruby Droplet. Mailed it to my main, and I got no credit for it. It worked for Elixir of Knowledge which I mailed from my bank toon, but not for pets.

So annoying. I hope they change that.

Comment by hixn36

Achievement should reward a new item 30-slot "Bigger Bag."

Comment by Askevar

Regarding the Elixir of Ancient Knowledge - I had it on an alt and mailed it to my main and was given credit for it.

Comment by Drobecek

Seriously, i don't understand why this achievement isn't account-wide..
There are too many things u have to loot.. Thing which aggravate me aren't items but mount from Huolon and pet "Bonkers" from Kukuru's chest. These are really useless to loot manytimes. I looted Bonkers at alt chars 9x, I really don't know why it isn't tradeable and because it isnt account-wide achievement I need to loot it again on main character and I can delete it again-isn't it fantastic? Same thing is mount.. Blizzard don't you want to do something with it?

Comment by hixn36

This achievement awards progress when the item ID of the criteria is in your bags. You do not lose credit once the item leaves your bags, unless it was removed before patch 5.4 in the case of the items that dropped from older rare spawns. This means that in the case of the BoA elixir, you can mail the item from an alt to your main and receive credit. This also explains why people have not received credit from the big bag of herbs with the duplicate item ID as well as caged pets, as they do not correspond to the criteria for the achievement.

This also means that you will receive credit for obtaining an item even if you do not loot it if it is traded to you by another player who looted it from a mob that you had tagged. In the case of pets you can receive the item (not a caged pet) in a trade to get credit for the achievement, then trade the item back and buy a caged pet later, if you so choose. This method of receiving credit requires faith on the part of the player offering the item in trade if they expect to get it back and probably works best with friends and guildies, but people desperate to earn the achievement or obtain the item early may also be willing to pay for the item, creating a new market for hunting the treasures from rare spawns, especially during busy times on large servers.

EDIT: To clarify, you may need to rezone or relog in order for the status of your achievement to register the item in your bags.

Comment by hixn36

To revise and expand upon an earlier comment that I had made, you can receive progress toward this achievement by accepting an item in a trade from another player who looted a rare mob that you had tagged and then relogging. Credit is awarded instantly if you loot the item yourself but requires a relog if it is received in a trade. For single-use items like pets (whose caged form does not award credit), the giant purse, pandaren brews etc. you may wish to /yell that you are offering gold in exchange for an unused item once the target mob is at low health, as some players may be so excited to have finally looted the item that they use it on the spot.

Comment by jamesmarcus

I have registered purely to say that this achievement is single handedly going to be responsible for my therapy bill. It really is soul destroying.

I have ONE item left now. ONE. And in the process, I've probably turned in to a psycho, threatening to bomb people.

Take my advice.

If you do this achievement, be prepared for intense counselling after.

Comment by Monroe85

If someone in your party wins and trades it with you then you do not receive credit. Tried that on the pirate leg.

Comment by Thalloren

Suggestions for how to get this achievement without going insane:

1) Take some time to get all of the items that drop from normal (non-elite, non-rare) enemies, such as the Thick Pi'jiu Brew from Spectral Brewmasters. This is pretty easy, and can be done with minimal headache. You can also do this at the same time as you have the weekly quest to gather Epoch Stones, as the stones will drop from any enemy (I think) on the Timeless Isle.

2) Pick one elite enemy at a time to fight for their drops, only while doing Shaohao's daily quest to kill 20 elites. Some of the drops will still be a pain to get, such as the rare pet drops from overfarmed enemies like the Jademist Dancer, but it can still be done in time, and won't have you sitting there for hours on end bashing your head over not getting the drop from the 200th elite you killed.

3) While doing step #2, kill ANY rares that you have a chance to kill, as long as you haven't gotten their rare drop yet (or if you maybe want a chance at another Burden). This may not be many. If, for example, you're fighting the Jademist Dancers as mentioned above, you probably won't be able to get to any rare except the strong ones like Vazuvius (which you're right next to), Evermaw, possibly Huolon, maybe Cinderfall (unlikely). Also Chelon, which is right next to you, or the Monstrous Spineclaw and Furyshell if they happen to spawn near you. But, most of those rares do have special drops, so until you get those drops, it's still worthwhile to fight them.

4) Once you've gotten ALL of the drops from elite enemies (not rare elites), you should have also knocked out a few of the drops from the rares as well. Then, you'll have a smaller list of rares that you need to camp until you get the final remaining drops. This last step will still probably take the longest, but it will be more manageable.

Thoughts? Additional suggestions?

Comment by sunsun2k

Hotfix on Oct 2:

The following items (related to this achievement) is non-tradable between players

Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent
Cauterizing Core
Golden Moss
Giant Purse of Timeless Coins
Elixir of Ancient Knowledge

Comment by warconz

Do the things i have already aquired count towards this?

Comment by bluemewgoddess

i have finished this achievement with a shared twin ticket with our toon names time we both hit the rare and that the other player wanted to give it to me which is in more detail in a newer post (was 115th kill)
KILL CRABS BEFORE OTHER RARES ATLEAST THE OTHER RARES HAVE CAMP-ABLE SPAWN TIMERS AND LOCATIONS
camped that crab for like 4months doing nothing else, im glad its finally over

ps:i sure am glad boa and vanity items get spellbook like tabs in 6.0 SERVER AND ACCOUNT WIDE
i have like 300 toys and unable to fit them around and destroyed holiday clothing because of bag space before the spellbook was announced like 40days before it so wasn't in restore list(##RESPBREAK##)2060##DELIM##Sas148##DELIM##

Comment by jasongor

http://www.ui.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22525-ABiggerBag.html#info

This UI helps alot！

Comment by da8ball

Buying pets from the AH does NOT count toward this achieve. You have to loot them.

Comment by coolfreezer

"They" should make this Account-wide! 'nough sa(i)d...

Edit:Finally our prayers were listened! With Patch 5.4.8 this will become finally Account-wide! <3

Comment by 1149874

Can anyone please confirm that Ash-Covered Horn also drops from Flintlord?
or only from High Priest of Ordos?

Comment by nedezak

May i suggest we rename this place to Time-Sink Isle?

I like the place, but getting everything is the biggest Time-Sink Blizzard implemented so far. Getting a character from lvl 85-90, and farming all the original MOP reputations with dailies would take less actual time probably. Isle giants with its 10-20 hour grind is a breeze in time-demand next to getting all this.

Still its great design and a great place IMO, lots of fun stuff everywhere, very varied, all kinds of events, and no obligations what so ever. A quick way to gear up alts, benefits for people that did the legendary quest, what more could we want? Only when you try to get EVERYTHING it is kinda a pain.

Comment by Amiaji

This achievment would seem a lot more satisfying to get if it, perhaps, ACTUALLY rewarded you with a bigger bag. Like a huge 40slot bag or something.

Comment by karatechop

In my opinion this achievement is on par with "insane in the membrane"

Spending roughly 5hrs per day on the isle, after a month~ of this, I have barely half the items, perhaps it's bad luck, but this is horrible.

Comment by Backtobasics

Hello! everyone i just completed this achivment on my warlock in bloodfether i got to say it was kinda easy and im kinda disapointed on it

completed 10/18 2013

Comment by Marierierieee

Some items that are Bind on Account, like Windfeather Plume and Quivering Firestorm Egg can be sent to another character and count towards their respective achievement.

Comment by Dusktide

This achievement feels like a Feat of Strength since so many of the droprates are so low. Getting every single one is ridiculous.

Comment by averagehero

If you're having issues with scrolling in the achievements window so see what criteria you're missing, I recommend linking it in a whisper to yourself so you can click on it and see the whole list.

Comment by Mormolyce

My plan is to get this achievement on my 87th birthday, shortly before dying of cancer.

Comment by 723124

So if anyone knows, which of the items if any are tradeable that drop from rares without needing a group. I know there were the few that got hotfixed so they weren't tradeable but are any of the other bind on pickup items tradeable without a group? I've been camping some of them for awhile and I just want to know if I should be badgering people to group up for all of them or not.

Also damnit Rockmoss drop your trinket I'm at almost 45 tries on my own at this point discounting when I grouped with people!

Comment by SherriaRH

It would be nice if blizzard would make the "Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent" counted towards the achievement regardless which character on your account receives it since you can only have one of each type of mount.

Comment by Bighand

Hate Blizzard for this achievement. Obtaining single item from this list is an achievement by itself....

Comment by bluemewgoddess

could not trade to a friend in group on the same tag and kill, someone could not trade me "cursed talisman" same kill (killed spelurk like 400 items so far QQ) tried over and over and over didn't have 2hr trade text on it, someone said 5.4.1 make timeless gear non-trade-able, and i know a hot-fix made ash-horn golden moss burden mount and um like falling meteor non-trade-able, but i had all those, in 5.4 i was able to borrow and re-log and hand back sunset stone unused gu'chi item pet and death adder with no stats,

MY QUESTION:
how much better are the odds of the first kill each day?, a player and gm both said it but could nto find anything anywhere on exact numbers.

which items are no longer trade-able and which are?

EDITED FOR READABILITY (because i go full derp on rough drafts)

Comment by bluemewgoddess

could not trade to a friend in group on the same tag and kill, someone could not trade me "cursed talisman" same kill (killed spelurk like 400 items so far QQ) tryed over and over and over didn't have 2h trade text on it, someone said 5.4.1 make timeless gear un-tradeable, and i know a hotfix made ash-horn golden-moss burden mount and um like falling meteor un-tradeable but i had all those, in 5.4 i was able to borrow and re-log and hand back sunset stone unused gu'chi item pet and death adder with no stats,

MY QUESTION:
how much better are the odds of the first kill each day, a player and gm both said it but could not find anything anywhere on exact numbers,

which items are no longer tradeable and which are

edited for readability

Comment by rendarkin

If you can possibly hang on to all of these items until Warlords of Draenor, DO. We will get a Toy Box page on the spellbook to free up the bag space taken by all of these vanity items, as described here:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/11502491/Warlords_of_Draenor_UI_Improvements-11_9_2013

So don't drop anything you might want later!

Comment by bluemewgoddess

PLEASE if you want the spineclaw pet and your on a non pvp server DO NOT kill crabs by the ally fp or in the oceon, theres an area right above ship you have 7 crabs to kill at and a pefictly good afk outlook stone if your npc scan camping with auto unmute on spawn, when you kill them all over the zone people farm for 4hrs without seeing it becasue you cant camp every area all over the island at once, this area has the most campers to share, so please alliance just come north and work with us 7 in a pool with 2 close north beats 3east + 3 in the water and 1 by turtle eggs -.-, you can even hit ship on spawns while camping! free coins on camp, multitask

Comment by MABGamer6407

Items like Ashleaf Spriteling do not count if the pet was bought caged. The pet itself does not count toward the achiv, it is the Item you get from the Mob that drops them. The BOP version that is needed to unlocked said pet. Once the pet is unlocked it is worthless to give to others thinking it would work. So any pets you get from AH or trades won't do you justice unfortunately.

Comment by Getafx

5 weeks ago I managed to finally get every item on the isle except for one: the Spineclaw Crab pet. It took 5 weeks for me to finally get it for this achievement. I spent 2-3 hours minimum killing Ancient Spineclaws every day. On a relatively low pop server, getting Monstrous Spineclaws to spawn is horrible!

My advice, if anyone EVER sees one of these, go kill it! Even if you have to skip a Huolon kill for it! At least Huolon follows a somewhat predictable spawn pattern.

I've spent entire days killing Ancient Spineclaws in order to get the Monstrous Spineclaws to spawn, sometimes going up to 9 hours between rare spawns. Then for the pet to be only a 3% drop rate just adds more heartache to the problem. I really hope Blizzard increase the spawn rate of these rares as it is greatly skewed when in comparison to other similar mobs that have a chance to spawn from killing the normal ones.

Comment by Soeroah

There are so many problems with the way the Timeless Isle is set up that this achievement is particularly ridiculous. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been driven close to the point of unsubscribing from boredom.

The only thing I want short-term are the battle pets, so of course they have to make rares have a terrible drop rate and spawn in place of dead normal mobs. Ugh. I miss the Isle of Thunder.

Comment by KingdomKnight

Because they probably won't give us any content until next expansion. I guess this is to keep people busy and give Blizzard something to suggest when people complain that they're bored. This should have given the Fairy Dragon mount people wanted. Instead they created two ploys to get more money. Here's hoping that WoD gives us more.

Comment by bluemewgoddess

starting to have the theroy of spineclaw crab that i do of love rocket, the server drops 10 per server and never drops it again and thats why the droprates start decient and fall...

2months of killing with double % first kill of the day
91kills
60x2 + 31 = 151% chance...still no pet and noone i have talked to on area 52 stormrage or trollbane has ever seen it most dont know it exsists and im very vocal in /s and /1 every kill about trying to get a barrow credit

.......92....no pet now eather for all 10 of us

Comment by bluemewgoddess

after killing the rare spine-claw 92 times over 2 months @3-10hrs a day i can say pretty safely that this pet does not exist (at-least for me) and that this achievement is not possible lol...how aggravating to be 1 credit away from completion longer than it took you to get all the other credits combined..

Comment by Akitnaya

I know i'm going crazy. I've farmed rares for this achievement for about 2-3months now. I know where EVERYTHING on Timeless Isle is. Even the name of the Grummle mailbox (Hopswift!) I'm 6 items away from never having to go back to that God forsaken isle. UGHHHHHH! Spineclaw pet is like a myth. Hasn't dropped once for me. Blizz thanks for having me waste away my life for 10 measly achievement points. This should be worth 100, if not more!

>=\

Comment by Morganos

Received Big Bag of Herbs from Champion of the Black Flame and it did NOT count towards this achievement >:(

Comment by bluemewgoddess

if your farming for this ask around in /1 anytime you kill a rare with the item u need because if you and someone else make a ticket with the time stamp you both killed the same rare saying that you both want it transferred to you it will come in mail and you will get credit, that's how i got spineclaw crab on the 115th kill and finished my achievement (probably 300hrs on other items and 500hrs on crabs alone due to multiple spawn locations and erratic spawn timers even if you keep them all mowed down) this achievement and the spinecalw rare are without a doubt the worse designed achieve right above the shadow pan glitchs (know your role was broken for for like forever 1 of 100 times not taken damage on all finally gave it) and also getting all the items in 10min for the statue on thunder island back when the island was populated (1 lil a$$hole taking 1 of your 4 items is all it costs to ruin the speed run)

so to summarize if you both hit the same mob both put the time and that you want your character name to have it they will transfer and give credit that way

Comment by Schadow

I created an Excel file which contains all the drop locations including if they are rare or require something special. I'll share it here, as I found it for myself quite handy, as I can hide rows of items I have obtained and keep it neat and cleaner for myself.

Note that Microsoft Excel 2007 or higher is required. You can't edit it as I locked it, you can, however, download and view it through the link. Once you downloaded it, you can edit it.

Special thanks to Voxxel for all the locations and his work for it.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1YTsu6miP3yNWtodklwWnhNSUE

enjoy.

Comment by indieeee

What sucks about this achievement is that isn't account bound I have so many items on alts that I need on main . Like Jade mist dancer have gotten that on 2 alts yet my main who atm is farming for this achievement and kills over 100 aday has yet to get this pet sigh hope blizzard changes it and makes it account wide then I would only need to farm 2 items and not 10

Comment by teebsalot

I have been using Farwater Conch to help keep tabs on 2 locations at once. granted it has a 10 minute cd, but it has definitely helped getting a couple extra tags over the course of the grind.

I would also direct you to the Falling Flame followed by Golden Glider to stop flying forward, and if you dont have time to glide down you can cancel the glider and use Cursed Talisman to prevent fall damage (you need to click the buff off to attack when you land, similar to a bop).

This combo is great for watching and getting to rares in different spots on the island, I hope it helps you!

Comment by gonzuluz

I haven't really dug into anything recently, like how to find information on achs and quests.

Does this go across all toons or is it just on one? I have one main toon that I play the I have 5 other 90s that I play once in a while.

Comment by BitBasher

Anyone remember Basilisk hearts from vanilla? This makes that look like a walk-in-the-park. I've given up on this achievement because I think the drops rates are STUPID-LOW for a no-reward cheevo. I've been at Timeless Isle for months and still have yet to see many of these items drops. I don't really want the items, I want to sign off on a relatively simple achievement.

Blizzard needs to wake up and realize that they can't just make simple stuff take months to get, hoping that we all keep playing. I just canceled my WoW subscription until the next expansion pack releases.

To anyone trying to get this achievement, enjoy the next 4 to 8 months of mindless grinding. :)

Comment by shihao0

Hey all big ~~beggers~~ baggers, by now some of u guys must be sick/pissed/whateveruarefeeling of the ridiculously low drop rates of the items. Of course not to mention some !@#$-er burns down Zesqua or Leafmender the moment they spawn. So... we can't really do anything if people wants to burn down those rares but, there are actually some items in WoW that can help you get there faster!

First on the list - Falling Flame. Combined with Golden Glider, u can get to ANY part of the isle within seconds. Those with slowfall or levitate wont need the glider. Of course, not all of us have the luck of getting Falling Flame. (Lucky me getting it twice!) NOTE: for those who are farming for Falling Flame, u can actually farm for it even though u have one in your inventory. It will go into your mailbox and will last for 30days. So.. what to do if you dont have Falling Flame? This leads us to the second part.

The second item on the list - UBER SPEED MOUNTS. There are 3 (not so rare, spawn time 5-10mins) elites in Pandaria that drop uber speed mounts.. some of u guys may know about them. The 3 elites are Pengsong, Sungraze Behemoth and Zhing. They drop Tuft of Yak Fur, Oddly-Shaped Horn and Bag of Kafa Beans respectively with a drop rate of 100%. Sadly, Bag of Kafa Beans that is dropped by Zhing can only be used in Kun-Lai Summit. This leaves us with Tuft of Yak Fur and Oddly-Shaped Horn for us to use on the timeless isle. Just killed Zesqua and Spirit of Jadefire spawned? No problem. Rushing to tag Huolon after killing Karkanos? Not an issue. In any case, u guys get my point. With 440% mounted speed, it is as though you are flying on land! And the movement speed stacks if u are using Windfeather Plume. NOTE: YOU CANT USE THEM IN COMBAT So.. if i cant use them in combat.. HOW THE HECK AM I SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE DAMN RARES QUICKER? This leads us to the third part.

The third and last item on the list - Condensed Jademist. This item works exactly like a rogue's vanish. Perfect for classes without any means to drop combat immediately. One click and u will be able to mount up!.

Special mention - Salyin Battle Banner. This item gives you a 1s stealth, dropping you out of combat. However, it is kinda sketchy as half the time u get pulled back into combat almost immediately. Use it with Shard of Archstone for better results. For druids, macro it with prowl. (Check under comments section for Salyin Battle Banner for the macro)

Good luck and have fun fellow Big Baggers!

Comment by Vorishgo

For rogues.
If you want Ash-Covered Horn from High Priest of Ordos - choose talents:
- Burst of Speed to evade oneshot abilities of priest and/or others mobs in area.
- Cheat Death save your life if you fail to evade oneshot attack.
- Shuriken Toss combo-generator. Weak, but can attack from distance!
- Deadly Throw combo-finisher. Also can slow mob (need to check).

Scuttler's Shell will greatly help to evade additional mobs, when you kiting High Priest of Ordos.

Good luck! :)

Additional information:

- don't break the cast of Cauterize, unless mob is nearly to die. Priest will heal, but the amount of heal is smaller, that DoT effect of Cauterize.

- always kill Eternal Kiln, cause if you don't do it, High Priest of Ordos will speed, damage and cast up by 50% (Kilnfire). You really don't want it.

Comment by perculia

This achievement has finally moved to account-wide progress in 5.4.8.

It seems that tech limitations were the main culprit in keeping this achievement tied to one character's progress for so long:

"There were technical hurdles, but they were worth clearing to solve a major point of frustration for players." --Ion Hazzikostas, Lead Game Designer on Twitter

Edit: There is a bug that has wiped Bigger Bag progress--it is currently being looked into and is unintended.(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##perculia##DELIM##

Comment by Chillihead

Looking for those who are actively trying to farm the Spineclaw Crab pet off Monstrous Spineclaw rares on the island for the achievement . Being able to have access to multiple server's spawns can reduce the time required for this achievement significantly.

If interested add ************* and I will notify you if it spawns on my server. Vice versa if it spawns on yours.

EDIT: Finally got the crab today, thank you to all those who helped me. Credit goes to netherfury on Mok'nathal for inviting me for the winning kill.

Thanks guys and good luck!

Comment by Mormolyce

Patch 5.4.8 Official Notes:

Going to Need a Bigger Bag is now an account-wide achievement and items obtained by all characters on the account now contribute credit towards completion. This means the achievement can be completed by obtaining all the required items across multiple characters instead of having a single character obtain all the items needed.

Live this week! Squeeee!

Comment by 918992

achievement is now account wide as of patch 5.4.8.

This means objects can now be gained across the whole account and will count towards the completion of this achievement and no more need to horde these things on one character, which should make it marginally easier. (only marginally though)

Comment by 631545

As of patch 5.4.8, this is now an account-wide achievement-- so go nuts with your alts on the isle!

Comment by Soralin

When logging in after 5.4.8 was applied, all progress on this achievement appears to be reset. Don't panic!

Watcher (Blizzard Dev) has tweeted that this is unintentional:

We're working on a fix for missing "Bigger Bag" achievement progress - it will require restarts. No progress will be lost. Don't panic.

Source

Comment by 1145065

With patch 5.4.8, this achievement is now account-wide

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/14167556/

Comment by 913880

I logged in and all of my progress was erased on all characters. However, I checked the forums and got the following info.

We're working on a fix for this. No data was or will be lost - layman's explanation is that your account isn't properly picking up past credit earned by individual characters, so we need to make sure that the information is transferred to the account level. Your character still knows everything that it previously had gained, but your account doesn't (yet). The fix will require restarts, and we'll post to let everyone know once we have an exact timetable for that.

Any new items you obtain towards the achievement in the meantime will count, and our fix will not overwrite that information. Apologies for the inconvenience, and any alarm from the apparent loss of progress towards such a challenging achievement.

--Watcher-Game Designer

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12877968280#20

Comment by Quadrophenia

Reward for this should be a Camper van mount imo

Comment by 1001147

After 5.4.8, this is now an account wide achievement.

They read some of the postings apparently. :P

Comment by dixilia

So this is now an account bound achievement (Yes!) so I take a look at what few bits I need as I have 2 chars on TI, and everything has been erased! I hope that they get this fixed I really do, especially for those who have already looted the thundering onyx cloud serpent already.

Comment by horlicks

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere (I didn't see it in this thread) but items required for this achievement DO drop while in a raid. I was in a cross-realm Ordos raid running to him and killed Leafmender on the way and he dropped his Ashleaf Sprite pet. Could prove to be very handy especially for people on highly populated servers such as myself.

Comment by Atlantea

This is now an account-wide achievement! Oh bless you Blizz:)

Comment by Taoma

If you are seriously considering getting this achievement and spending days and weeks on the island, here is a useful tip: get Ash-Covered Horn first, allows you to move around the island much faster. I've also read that Falling Flame can be useful to get to Garnia and maybe other distant places.

Comment by excip

Also known as the biggest rng suckfest in the entire wow history.

Comment by KryptoFreak

I've gone far beyond the point of insanity farming these items. Now down to my last two items from Jakur of Ordon and the High Priestess(farmable easy). With over 600 kills on jakur(farming over multiple servers) without seeing the item drop I'm starting to lose my humanity.
I honestly don't know what to do if blizzard implements such a frustrating achievement again..

Comment by maely

I know some people (myself included) have complained that this achieve should award more than 10 points and/or something like a 30-slot Bigger Bag, which admittedly would be REALLY cool.

But I was chatting with a player with whom I frequently camp Jakur's spawn, and it occurred to me that this achievement is about the same as The Seat of Knowledge, a similarly asinine scavenger hunt to collect a couple dozen items with ~2% droprates. At least the Seat of Knowledge awards a title, though.

On the plus side, the Bigger Bag grind is perhaps less lonely of a grind. I'm down to 2 items left before I leave this Timeless Isle forever, but I've made a lot of new friends along the way.

Comment by IceWolfDK

Started getting serious about this cheevo, when I suddenly fand unexpectedly ound Spineclaw Crab. Then I went for the next annoying one, Ash covered horn, took about 15 kills of the Ordon High Priests to pop it.

Then it has just been grinding the easy ones with rare camping. As of right now, Jakur of Ordon finally coughed up the Warning Sign. Now only the Rain Stone from Zesqua remains, the very LAST item on the list.

Spineclaw crab is pretty much what which makes or breaks completion of this ach, as its so annoying to get. A pet from a super rare spawn, with multiple possible locations where it can appear.

Comment by 536500

Does anyone know if this achievement is going away with the expansion? Its not listed as an achievement in the latest beta build. My overgrown lilypad is vendor trash.

Comment by pauladin

In 6.0.2 (Warlords of Draenor) this achievement was moved to Collections.

It used to reside under Exploration -> Pandaria -> Timeless Isle.

A fact that gave me a heart attack, and was never mentioned in the patch notes, or in the forum, or in the WowHead list of changes, or on Wowpedia, or in the WowHead comments.

Comment by itsnotemy

Given the RNG it takes to complete this (been stuck on Falling Flame for the last 4 weeks) I honestly think this should offer a reward. Maybe a title or get this, the biggest bag slot in the game :D (one can hope)

Comment by Vyola

After almost 300 kills of Zesqua and still no Rain Stone, my last item for this achivment, I was glad to know that, the rares needed for Steamwheedle Preservation Society reputation in WoD, have a chance to drop Partially-Digested Bag.
Based on user reports, all Bigger Bag achievement items have a chance to be contained in that bag, meaning that you can do stuff in WoD to get the items.
Check here Rares and Exploration in Nagrand

Comment by Askevar

This achievement was moved out of the Exploration category and into the Collections one with Warlords of Draenor, for those having trouble finding it.

Comment by Aurecante

The achievement should reward the title "Insane in the bag".

Comment by 315987

If they removed the overgrown lilypad, does the wilted lilypad count towards this achievment now?

Comment by nmb3000

I'm somewhat late to the game, but I figured others might be like me and, when looking for something to do, remembered this achievement.

I was getting really tired of trying to track my progress against the unsorted list of items shown on the in-game achievement window. To make this easier, I made a macro to print out all the items you are still MISSING, in alphabetical order.

/run r={} for i=1,56 do t={GetAchievementCriteriaInfo(8728,i)} if not t then table.insert(r, t) end end table.sort(r) for i=1,#r do print(r) end

Now you have a sorted list that you can use to look up items in the helpful sticky post. Hope that someone else finds this helpful, and good luck! :)

Comment by Hyuos

Items grouped based on how they are obtained. Percents may change over time. General tactics:

Addons: NPCScan, NPCScan.Overlay, RareCoordinator
Time-Lost Artifact (7,500 Timeless Coin from Mistweaver Ku)
Golden Glider: altitude / distance. 1,000 Timeless Coin for stack of 5 (20 max) from Ku-Mo. Seek open sea (Fatigue bar), get on flying mount, fly up high, switch to glider. Avoid Ordon Sanctuary's main square if you don't have MoP's legendary cloak.
Use the LFG Tool (Premade Groups > Custom) to check rare spawns on other servers

PANDARIA MAINLAND: (credit to Voxxel) better drop rates outside the Timeless Isle:

Zone	Item	Source	Timeless Isle Alternative
Valley of the Four Winds	Battle Horn	Blackhoof (20%)	Ordon Candlekeeper (0.5%)
Valley of the Four Winds	Wilted Lilypad	Sele'na (20%)	Gulp Frog (0.6%)
Valley of the Four Winds	Crystal of Insanity	Sulik'shor (10%)	Loot from Eerie Crystals in Cavern of Lost Spirits (3%)
Kun-Lai Summit	Forager's Gloves	Korda Torros (10%)	Burning Berserker (0.8%)
Kun-Lai Summit	Hardened Shell	Nessos the Oracle (18%)	Chelon (1.6%) / Great Turtle Furyshell (1.7%)
Dread Wastes	Elixir of Ancient Knowledge	Krol the Blade (10%)	Archiereus of Flame (3%)

ITEMS LOOTED FROM CONTAINERS:

Item	Container
Azure Crane Chick	Crane Nest
Cursed Swabby Helmet	Sunken Treasure
Bonkers	Timeless Chest; purchase Kukuru's Cache Key for 500 Timeless Coin to open

EMPEROR SHAOHAO REP: Bring Battle Standard of Coordination. Rares are on 30-60 minute timer. Expect to hit Exalted with Shaohao long before finishing.

Mob Type	Rep Points	Source	Item(s)
Rare	30 (90 if all 3 are tagged)	Champion of the Black Flame	Blackflame Daggers (1.1%)
Rare	40	Urdur the Cauterizer	Sunset Stone (3%), Ordon Ceremonial Robes (2%)
Rare	40	Flintlord Gairan	Ordon Death Chime (3%)
Rare	40	Cinderfall	Falling Flame (2%), Glowing Blue Ash (1.9%, or 1% from common Foreboding Flame)
Rare	20	Watcher Osu	Ashen Stone (0.9%), Ordon Ceremonial Robes (1.9%)
Rare	20	Jakur of Ordon	Warning Sign (1%)
Common	25	High Priest of Ordos	Ash-Covered Horn (1.3%)
Common	20	Molten Guardian	Cauterizing Core (1.9%)
Common	20	Eternal Kilnmaster	Eternal Kiln (0.4%), Blazing Sigil of Ordos (1.8%)
Common	20	Blazebound Chanter	Blizzard Stone (0.5%), Ordon Ceremonial Robes (0.9%)
Common	15	Burning Berserker	Big Bag of Herbs (0.9%, vs. 1% from Ashleaf Sprite with no rep)
Common	10	Ordon Oathguard	Warped Warning Sign (5%)
Common	10	Ordon Fire-Watcher	Ordon Ceremonial Robes (0.9%), Blazing Sigil of Ordos (1.3%)

GRINDABLE ITEMS: From non-Shaohao common mobs. Some also have a low drop rate off a rare.Condensed Jademist Jademist Dancer Pristine Stalker Hide Thick Pi'jiu Brew Misty Pi'jiu Brew

Item	Common Source	Rare Alternative
Partially-Digested Meal	Death Adder (2%)	Imperial Python (2%)
Glinting Pile of Stone	Eroded Cliffdweller (0.9%)	Golganarr (2%)
Glowing Blue Ash	Foreboding Flame (1%)	Cinderfall (1.9%)
Ominous Flame	Foreboding Flame (0.5%)
Jademist Dancer (8%)
Jademist Dancer (0.5%)
Primal Stalker (0.9%)	Cranegnasher (1.9%) / Tsavo'ka (2%)
Bubbling Pi'jiu Brew	Spectral Windwalker (8%)
Spectral Brewmaster (8%)
Spectral Mistweaver (8%)

STANDARD RARES: 30-60 minute spawn timer (except Golganarr).ItemOdd Polished Stone Rain Stone

Rare Source	Other Drops This Rare Shares with Common Mobs
Ruby Droplet	Garnia (3%)
Golganarr (23%)	Glinting Pile of Stone (2%, vs. 0.9% from Eroded Cliffdweller)
Swarmling of Gu'chi	Gu'chi the Swarmbringer (3%)	Sticky Silkworm Goo (46%, vs. 1.9% from Spotted Swarmer)
Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent	Huolon (1%)	Quivering Firestorm Egg (24%, vs. 7% from Crimsonscale Firestorm)
Ashleaf Spriteling	Leafmender (3%)	Faintly-Glowing Herb (50%, vs. 10% from Ashleaf Sprite)
Golden Moss	Rock Moss (3%)	Strange Glowing Mushroom (51%, vs. 47% from Damp Shambler)
Jadefire Spirit, Glowing Green Ash	Spirit of Jadefire (2%)
Zesqua (0.9%)

EVENT RARES: Corresponding event must be completed for spawn:Item

Rare Source	Event
Rime of the Time-Lost Mariner	Dread Ship Vazuvius (14%)	Kill Evermaw for Mist-Filled Spirit Lantern; use at the Misty Strand graveyard.
Giant Purse of Timeless Coins	Karkanos (24%)	Talk to Fin Longpaw when he is fishing at the dock.
Captain Zvezdan's Lost Leg	Rattleskew (3%)	Look for Rattling Mariners. Kill original group + 2 waves.
Dandelion Frolicker	Scary Sprite (0.14%)	Use Neverending Spritewood (once daily) to turn Nice Sprites hostile, go on 1-min killing spree.
Cursed Talisman	Spelurk (0.9%)	Look for boulders blocking the cave. Get on the other side of the rocks, grab hammer, smash rocks. I used Mushroom Chair in front of the boulders, sat, and walked through. Essence of the Breeze may work. Mages can Blink.
Skunky Alemental	Zhu-Gon the Sour (3%)	Kill 10 Skunky Brew Alemental / Skunked Keg.

SHARED SPAWNS: After the common mob listed is killed and despawns, the rare version has a low chance to spawn in its place.Windfeather Plume Death Adder Hatchling

Item	Rare Source	Common Mob With Shared Spawn	Other Drops This Rare Shares with Common Mobs
Gulp Froglet	Bufo (3%)	Gulp Frog
Emerald Gander (50%)	Brilliant Windfeather (also drops item: 8% rate)
Imperial Python (3%)	Death Adder	Partially-Digested Meal (2%)
Spineclaw Crab	Monstrous Spineclaw (1.8%)	Ancient Spineclaw	Scuttler's Shell (45%, vs. 10% from Ancient Spineclaw)

Comment by 121744

Does anyone know if these items will still drop if you are in a raid group? I am camping Zesqua for the last item (seems like an all too common task) and hopping realms at times, many of which are raid groups. If it will not drop in raid group, I would rather not waste my time doing that. Thanks in advance for any helpful replies.

Comment by wowitsvyx

Re the Wilted Lilypad:

I couldn't find a definitive answer really regarding how the Overgrown Lilypad is tracked since the release of WoD so I opened a ticket regarding the item to check this with a GM.

The GM recommended I try killing Sele'na in Valley of the Four Winds instead of farming the Gulp Frogs.

I camped this mob on and off. She has approximately a 40 minute respawn, same as the other MoP rares. When she dropped the lilypad I was awarded progress towards Going To Need A Bigger Bag! She has a 20% drop chance so it's definitely worth doing!

Hope this helps someone!

Exact response from the GM below:

The lilypad should still drop and should still give credit for the achievement Going to Need a Bigger Bag. Sele'na should still drop the lilypad, just might need to take a little bit to get it.

Comment by pat33

STOP AND LISTEN: your not timeless! For the SPINECLAW FARM

The only way to do it is to do a DH on a very low pop server, then you farm crabs counter clock wise starting north-east (with the curse swabby helmet) you just kill them all (38 of them) and try to cover them all so that no one will kill them but you. Get several alts on the job like 5 to cover the toy cd timer so you can farm this 1 hr or endlessly.

Essentially it's like farming mine nodes at the moment they respawn but with the helmet.

A very low pop server? Argent Dawn.

Comment by colarama

Killing time waiting for Legion to drop and remembered this achievement, and in two days have gone from 16 remaining to 9 remaining.

In my experience the drop rates for pets and toybox toys are accurate, in the 1-2% range, but the rates for other drops seems to be a lot higher than reported, like in the 5-20% range.

Sunset Stone - 8 kills
Ashen Stone - 17 kills
Blizzard Stone - 6 kills
Cursed Talisman - 11 kills
Golden Moss - 14 kills
Captain Zvezdan's Lost Leg - 6 kills
Overgrown Lilypad - no drop from hundreds of gulp frogs, but got Wilted Lilypad with only 5 kills of Sele'na

I have a hard time believing I just got lucky on seven different "~1%" drops. My suspicion is that the drop rates for a lot of these items are skewed by numbers from the early days of Timeless Isles.

For some of my remaining items that I am actively farming, making me think the toys and pets numbers are accurate:
Warning Sign - 78 Jakur kills so far
Blackfame Daggers - 48 Champion kills so far
Ashleaf Spriteling - 66 Leaf kills so far

Comment by Catweazle

This achievement was hard enough when the content was current, but now you have level 100s literally one-shotting the rares. Unless you are camped out right at their spawn point at the exact moment they spawn with your finger on the fire button you have no chance of getting them. Hopefully when Legion is released everyone will go there and it will be less crowded.

Comment by Aztecia

Finally finished this today. Don't give up if you are stuck on one! Keep at it. It'll come to you!

Comment by shylee

I haven't seen anyone mentioning this (and sorry if I missed someone's post...I was looking): buying the caged pets off the auction house does NOT count towards this achievement. You have to get the item that "teaches" you the pet rather the learned pet itself. I don't know if all of these items are soulbound or can be traded, and if they can, I don't know that this would count towards the achievement (I have only tested buying a caged pet on this list and it didn't count for me). This is different than other achievements, such as Raiding with Leashes, where the item that counts towards the achievement is the learned/caged pet, and not the item that "teaches" you the pet.

Here is an example for what I mean by item that "teaches" a pet, and learned/caged pet itself:
Item: Spineclaw Crab
Pet: Spineclaw Crab

Comment by Spoonzilla

Overgrown Lilypad has been replaced with the Wilted Lilypad. Despite the in-game achievement still calling it Overgrown Lilypad, you can get credit for obtaining a Wilted Lilypad. I just got credit for it as of 7.3.5.

Comment by Austille

Either they've extremely increased the drop % or I have been very lucky tonight!

So I logged in to do a little bit of rep grinding for Emperor Shaohao and I got four of the rare drops in about ten minutes. I'm also seeing tons of rare NPC corpses all over. Super fast spawn rates on those now too.

Comment by Jeolene

Edit - 4/10/20: I have finally finished this achievement in all it's head turning, cursing throwing, hate spewing glory. Watcher Orus was the only hold out for me, farming him for months since I originally wrote this and he FINALLY gave up the ashen stone. I would like to say that this took for-frickin-ever, but considering the way the rares were before the spawn timer changes, the amount of time it took was a drop in the bucket compared to the old way.

Don't fret, don't get frustrated, some of the rares will still take a while to drop, but you WILL eventually get them to drop. Don't give up and keep pushing to finish it!

There is some speculation that you can use alts to complete this as well, I cannot confirm if this is true, but I'm going based on old info that alts do not contribute to this as an account wide achievement and did not want to risk messing it up. I do know for a fact that buying pets on the AH and learning them DOES NOT count toward the achievement, you must get them from the source.

I just read a post that I somehow missed, it states:

This achievement has finally moved to account-wide progress in 5.4.8.

It seems that tech limitations were the main culprit in keeping this achievement tied to one character's progress for so long:

"There were technical hurdles, but they were worth clearing to solve a major point of frustration for players." --Ion Hazzikostas, Lead Game Designer on Twitter

Edit: There is a bug that has wiped Bigger Bag progress--it is currently being looked into and is unintended.

~~It is currently four days away from the launch of Battle For Azeroth. I have yet to complete this list.~~ (original comment, 8/10/18)

Ok, so while my above statement is still true, it seems that at some point Blizz has buffed rare spawns on Timeless Isle. Most rares have been given a 30min respawn timer and it is very consistent. There is a chance of a 45min time, I had one on Gu'chi the Swarmbringer, but a lot of times I have found a half hour to be true. I have also had some mobs respawn within minutes of killing them. I am not sure if it's just a fluke or if it's just the time to respawn and it despawns the first mob to place it in a new area, but mobs like Gu'chi very occasionally do this as well.

Second, "rare" rare spawns that you 'summon' by killing similar creatures is no longer needed. While I'm sure the mechanic is still active, the mobs like Great Turtle Furyshell and Monstrous Spineclaw will now spawn in their normal areas at random times without killing other creatures to 'force' a spawn. I have seen these mobs up without ever touching their lesser counterparts. Monstrous Spineclaw most definitely. I do not have a specific timer, but it seems they will spawn one day and then respawn multiple times that day, but then not be seen for days. Then you'll suddenly find them again. If you are a skinner, I still suggest skinning all skinnable mobs just in case that helps the respawn.

Mobs like Chelon and Archiereus of Flame are still only lootable once per day, but they respawn much more frequently (helps for others farming them).

Spirit of Jadefire and Nessos the Oracle (just south of Isle of Giants) do not seem to spawn reguraly as others have stated in the past. Nesso drops the same item as Chelon and Furyshell, but I have camped him for more than his hour time and he does not spawn. The same for Spirit of Jadefire in the cave. He is supposed to have a 45-60min timer, but I have sat and waited to never have him show up. It has been days since I have seen him. I don't know if this is a glitch or intentional and I won't say any postings of the timer from the past are wrong, but as of right now they do not spawn in an hour. I have also noted that Bufo does not follow the same 30-45min timer as well, though he does seem to spawn much more frequently (if only randomly) than the previous mobs.

It was suggested that maybe I just missed the mobs from someone else farming them and while that is possible, I suspect very unlikely. I do a /who check and find no one else but me on the island. I have also parked a Horde alt and checked that way as well with the same results. Also, it is the same mobs repeatedly that do not show up during their scheduled respawn times which tells me something was glitched.

Garnia can still be accessed with the albatross mechanic. If you're ~~waaaay above lvl90~~ lvl60, using items such as Fruit Basket Fruit Basket will allow you to tag one and pick you up without killing it. Hunters beware, your pets WILL attack the bird before it picks you up no matter how you tag it. I seem to remember some glitch with the albatross back in the day, but specifics are lost to me, however I have been using this trick for a couple weeks now with no issue.

Since this change, I have been able to acquire more items in the two weeks of farming before editing this post than I have in the YEARS since MoP was current content. One of my most successful farming techniques is to check every hour rather than every half hour once I have cleared out only the rares that I am farming. This has ensured me that if they do somehow take 45mins to respawn, I will most likely catch them and not have to wait.

I also let others farm rares if they happen to be in the area first (like Gu'chi). Be nice, people, you're not going to have to wait long.

So! Good luck, happy farming and rejoice in the fact that you can now actively farm these mobs without having to wait for days.

Comment by Nurmat

Finally i got the last item Glowing Green Ash Spirit of Jadefire camping is worse than Huolon

Comment by Celinepeon

After completing this achievement earlier today I thought I'd share tips from my own experience for anyone considering to tick this one off their list:

1. There are three items that you should accept that you will most likely need to farm at some point, unless you get lucky running around the Isle collecting the others: Spineclaw Crab, Deathadder Hatchling, and Gulp Froglet. You will almost certainly have to farm the crab but it isn't entirely uncommon to run into an Imperial Python or Bufo along the way.

2. DO NOT waste your time running around the map on one toon from NPC to NPC hoping to get lucky as you go. Doing the achievement this way will waste an absolutely ridiculous amount of your time. Instead, park alts across the zone at the spawn locations of the mob you need to kill and log in throughout the day to flag kills. I personally started at the top of the list because it felt a lot more rewarding going down the list and ticking it off systematically but you do you.

3. None of the pets can be purchased off the AH to help complete this achievement. However, you CAN receive credit for Huolon if you purchase it from the BMAH. I had an alt parked at Huolon when I first started this achievement and I was towards the end of the list without having the mount drop when it appeared on the BMAH. 100k later and Huolon was green.

4. Be persistent. The nature of RNG can mean that even those 2% drop chance items can feel like they're never going to drop. This is another reason why I recommend my alt strategy. You'll eventually stop expecting the item you need to drop because you're just logging in and out but it will eventually!

5. Spineclaw: when it comes time to farm this bad boy you'll want to camp the area NE of the Horde flight path (Huojin Landing). Running around the map feels like you're increasing your chances but it becomes counter-productive when you're on one side of the map and someone else tags the Monstrous Spineclaw you've spawned on the other side of the map. I did most of this alt-tabbed and was lucky enough to get the pet on my fifth kill (Yes, I'm extremely aware how lucky this is!).

Overall, this achievement took me about three months of sporadic logins with only two alts parked in Timeless Isle. Obviously you could park more here and finish this quicker but I definitely wanted to take a more casual approach to getting this achievement. Goodluck everyone!

Comment by jjanchan

Note that the Battle for Azeroth version of this achievement, Give Me the Biggest Bag You've Got, is thankfully different in that pets purchased off of the Auction House WILL count towards the achievement. It would have been much less painful if Going To Need A Bigger Bag had been that way...one can dream.

Comment by jacklowry

Finished this yesterday (first day of 9.0) and want to second what somebody said below about trying to finish this on an RP server. It's much, much faster, since they're invariably empty.

With 2 different vulpera on 2 distinct RP servers and 2 accounts, I could get as many as 8 kills of each needed mob every 30-45 minutes, as follows:

1) Make a vulpera on an RP server (i used my free shadowlands upgrade boosts on each account.)
2) Get them to Timeless Isle.
3) Pick one as lead, invite the other, kill a mob (1-2)
4) Switch leads, kill the mob again (3-4)
5) Go to the inn by the arena and turn WM off.
6) Repeat Steps 3-4. (5-8)
7) Hearth to Org, turn WM on, camp back to Timeless isle.
8) Rinse/repeat until everything drops.

Vulpera are particularly useful not just for the easy return, but because (a) you can camp near Garnia for the Ruby Droplet and not have to keep climbing back up the waterfall and (b) if you prefer, you can turn wm off at your camp instead, getting 8 kills of a particular mob in 1-2 minutes.

Happy hunting.

Comment by Tengwar

Since Ordon Sanctuary is only accessible if you have the old cloak, does that mean you can't get the achievement unless you have the cloak? Since some items only drop from bosses in the sanctuary?

Comment by fkdlzh

after more than 4 months farming this achievement daily, orden deatch chime, jadefire spirit, glowing green ash, ashen stone and cursed talisman refuse to drop. absolutely insane

Comment by Hyrcyne

So I have been working on the achievement for quite a while and I wanted to share some of my tips.

First of all, doing this on an RP realm is considerably easier. The last thing you want is people showing up and killing all the mobs you need for themselves. Leveling a brand new character from 1 to 50 on an RP realm specifically for this achievement is probably gonna end up saving you time compared to doing this on normal realms, competing with a lot more people. Turning on Warmode might also help, as there's generally less people with WM on.

There are a few useful items you may want to farm to make your life easier: Windfeather Plume from Brilliant Windfeather/Emerald Gander and Ash-Covered Horn from High Priest of Ordos are great items to increase your mobility around the island. Goblin Glider Kit to both get to, and jump off the Ordon Sanctuary area (assuming you don't have the legendary MoP cloak). An underwater mount, especially for farming the Monstrous Spineclaw. Mushroom Chair (or similar toy) to easily reach Spelurk. Time-Lost Artifact to easily get back to the island.

Apart from the obvious rare scanner addons, the one I used that ended up being very useful is NPC Time. This will add one line of information in your tooltip, telling you for how long an NPC has been alive. This can quickly tell you if a zone is freshly restarted or not.

Because if you did not know, if no player is found in a zone for 15 minutes or more, the zone unloads and resets, similar to the weekly server restarts. The vast majority of rares on Timeless Isle respawn when the zone resets, which means that you could kill all the rares you need, turn on/off Warmode for 15 minutes (which acts the same as leaving a zone), turn off/on Warmode again, and rares should've respawned, assuming no else showed up in that 15 minutes window. There are, however, a few rares that do not seem to respawn on resets: Bufo, Golganarr, Spirit of Jadefire and Rock Moss are the ones I found.

Comment by DCCXVIII

Having completed this achieve at long last, I can say a few things:

1. It is ridiculous.
2. There are a few rares that do not instantly spawn with the zone reset (Bufo and Spirit of Jadefire are the main problems). These rares only spawn after a shard has been up for at least 45min. These rares will be the worst since you will not be able to farm them on dead server shards. Rather you will have to try to camp them on popular servers in order to stop the zone from resetting. War Mode is your friend here.
3. The rares that you need multiple things off of are the worst.
4. The number of achievement points (10) you get from this ridiculously difficult achievement is pathetic compared to how hard it is to complete. It should be worth 50 at a minimum.
5. Use stealth characters on a combination of dead and popular servers with WM on to do this.
6. Whilst this achievement is doable without the mop lego cloak, it is made slightly harder since some mobs are denied to you. But it's not a massive issue some people make it out to be.
7. Use the crane statue+glider trick to basically get flying across the entire island.
8. This achievement will likely take a couple years to complete if you farm it only occasionally like I did.

Comment by thanyou

I've been working on this off and on for years, and after finally getting Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent I decided it was time to go all the way, and claim my much deserved 10 nerd points. However I couldn't find an existing Item Pack for Rarity, so I threw one together tonight while waiting for Spirit of Jadefire to spawn lol. Its not at all perfect, and it has a number of fudged percentages just to make tooltips neat, but it beats Rarity's current tracking of: not tracking any of these items at all.

Includes every item for Going To Need A Bigger Bag that Rarity doesn't already track, with a few caveats:

Rarity has an issue right now that prevents tracking multiple drop rates from different NPCs. This is circumvented by either choosing the highest drop rate from an easily farmed NPC, such as Wilted Lilypad from Sele'na in Valley of Four Winds over the "farmable" Gulp Frog (an abysmal estimated .05% over a comfortable 20%). Or in the case of Pristine Stalker Hide where multiple mobs drop it at roughly the same, but still individually distinct rates, the lowest is chosen to be displayed for all. Many items can be collected from other open world rares off the island. Do your research to help seek out which mobs you need and guide your decision making in farming.

Additionally, the "gimme" drops (higher than 10%) are included for completeness. The 50th Scuttler's Shell is annoying but the first one might fill you with determination to finish this grind.

There are a number of concessions like this made for this Item Pack, but it is the best that can be accomplished with the current version of Rarity (Currently r715)

Only missing item from this Item Pack (as of Rarity r175) is Cursed Swabby Helmet. Currently Unsupported by Rarity's custom tracking system because it is looted from a chest, Sunken Treasure. An appeal has been made for it to be added to the base addon.

Import into Rarity under the Import/Export Tab.

The link is found in the Item Packs section of the rarity discord, direct link here: https://discord.com/channels/788119147740790854/865065076738621495/949212477038669894

Comment by Topazmace

Still here in ~~Shadowlands~~ Dragonflight.. anyone else?

Trying to farm a low drop rate item from a low spawn rate rare sucks.

Comment by Emyly

One of the most disgusting achievement ever it takes over 1 year to complete farming rare 1-2 hours a day that is if u do not want brain worms.
The worst part about this are the pets especially the crab one I got lucky with mine but I heard horror story of 1k+ and no pet drop.

Honest advice if u want to do this don't, but if u do create a druid, cat form for invisibility, war mode ON, and farm during morning or late at night on a low population server otherwise no chance of even finding one rare

Comment by Xemnuz

Doing this post Pandaria is absolutely insane, like the Naxt Victim achievement, they have to be removed from the game. You spend literally an hour spawning one rare (which a random player may oneshot) only to have a 1% drop chance to get the item you want, this could take years only to get a few of them, disgusting.

Comment by Tyrsenus

All items sorted by drop rate (according to Wowhead), current as of 9.2.7.

Item	Drop Rate
Cursed Swabby Helmet	60%
Strange Glowing Mushroom	51%
Faintly-Glowing Herb	51%
Windfeather Plume	50%
Scuttler's Shell	45%
Sticky Silkworm Goo	43%
Hardened Shell	26%
Giant Purse of Timeless Coins	25.8%
Quivering Firestorm Egg	23%
Battle Horn	20%
Wilted Lilypad	20%
Odd Polished Stone	16%
Rime of the Time-Lost Mariner	15.6%
Forager's Gloves	10%
Crystal of Insanity	9.2%
Thick Pi'jiu Brew	8%
Condensed Jademist	8%
Bubbling Pi'jiu Brew	8%
Misty Pi'jiu Brew	8%
Big Bag of Herbs	7%
Warped Warning Sign	5%
Ashleaf Spriteling	3.6%
Ruby Droplet	3.2%
Captain Zvezdan's Lost Leg	3.2%
Gulp Froglet	3%
Skunky Alemental	3%
Sunset Stone	2.9%
Death Adder Hatchling	2.9%
Golden Moss	2.8%
Ordon Death Chime	2.3%
Swarmling of Gu'chi	2.1%
Glowing Green Ash	2%
Cauterizing Core	2%
Partially-Digested Meal	2%
Azure Crane Chick	2%
Glinting Pile of Stone	2%
Glowing Blue Ash	2%
Spineclaw Crab	1.9%
Pristine Stalker Hide	1.9%
Bonkers	1.9%
Falling Flame	1.8%
Blazing Sigil of Ordos	1.8%
Ordon Ceremonial Robes	1.8%
Jadefire Spirit	1.6%
Ash-Covered Horn	1.4%
Warning Sign	1.2%
Cursed Talisman	1.1%
Blackflame Daggers	1.1%
Ashen Stone	1.1%
Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent	0.9%
Rain Stone	0.7%
Blizzard Stone	0.6%
Ominous Flame	0.6%
Jademist Dancer	0.5%
Eternal Kiln	0.5%
Dandelion Frolicker	0.2%

Comment by SargerasWasRight

I looted Captain Zvezdan's Lost Leg on a trial character and it counted towards the achievement. Seems like a safe bet that most if not all items for this achievement could be farmed with trial characters to make things quicker.

Comment by Ffion

Spineclaw Crab for the acheivement. Took 66 kills of the rare which translates to THOUSANDS of regular crab kills. Anyone need any crab meat? This achieve took years to complete because I had to take breaks for my sanity. RNG inside RNG... not cool Blizz.
I would like to see Blizz change the way loot is given to this: Set whatever drop chance you want, within reason. If it is 1/100 then you are guaranteed this drop on your 100th attempt. Knowing that there is light at the end of the tunnel will actually have more ppl keeping up the searches because they know they will eventually get the prize. There are too many drops in the game that are 1/100 or worse... some being 1/10000!
Give hope to the insane people that are completionists like myself. At the moment, I KNOW that I will never get every mount/pet/toy/mog in the game.

Comment by Sipder2

Going To Need A Bigger Bag, this was the hardest achievement in Mists of Pandaria.
I got this on the last day of the expansion: 14 December in 2011.
For this achievement I've spend a total of 4 mounths playing 4 hours a day.
This achievement is hardest cause do you need loot rare items from rare mobs.
Even the rares having 30 to 60 minutes spawn the problem here is cause those rares has low hp and die fast, making you lose then.

Another factor that make this achievement hard, is because the items needed has low drop chance.
For example the Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent, this mount has 0.9% drop chance, and was my last item for conclud the achievement.
I've spend a total of 400 trys to loot this mount.

My strategy for don't lose my mind while doing this insane grind was watching one piece while the Huolon doesnt spawn.
The addon called Rare Coordinator was great to track the rare spawn times, but I guess it's doesnt work on Dragonflight, cause you need other players to tracking with you.

Don't forget to use move speed items and teleport to reach rares faster.

Going To Need A Bigger Bag (All Items): https://youtu.be/HyUKlWzD2cU

Comment by Vimosa

I now understand why this island is called Timeless Isle.

Comment by Georgino

If you want to start farming the items for this achievement here are some helpfull tips:

-All rares can be killed multiple times per day and still have chance to drop the items. The first kill of the day only affects the amount of coins they will drop, nothing else.

-Items can be looted on trial characters and still count for the achievement.

-Use empty rp servers (if you can) since most of the rares will be up.

-Most of the rares have 30-60 minutes respawn timer

-Take advantage of the Gleaming Crane Statue & Goblin Glider Kit combo to fly through the island. Usefull for Garnia and (outside) Sanctuary area.

-Pets has to be looted, buying them from AH will not grant you credit for the achievement.

!IMPORTANT!
-Killing rares with other people/friends increase your chances because the RARE & EPIC quality items can be traded to people that are eligible for loot, When someone loot an item gets credit for the achievment, then by trading it to someone else give credit ALSO to that person. The 2nd person will not get credit directly but after a relog. If there are more people just continue trading it after each relog.
Same applies for pets. You have to trade the actual item that dropped and not the caged pet because this will not grant you credit (as stated above)
Note that his won't work for items that are uncommon or lower quality

HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE?
It can take 1-2 weeks if all you do is farming rares in empty shards 24/7 while server hoping (or swithing to chars on different shards).
It will take several years if you farming 'casually' once in a while

Good luck!

Links

Going To Need A Bigger Bag

Obtain all of the rare items from the Timeless Isle listed below.

Criteria

	Cursed Swabby Helmet (1)
	Giant Purse of Timeless Coins (1)
	Battle Horn (1)
	Big Bag of Herbs (1)
	Hardened Shell (1)
	Thick Pi'jiu Brew (1)
	Warning Sign (1)
	Cauterizing Core (1)
	Cursed Talisman (1)
	Strange Glowing Mushroom (1)
	Jadefire Spirit (1)
	Ashen Stone (1)
	Rain Stone (1)
	Falling Flame (1)
	Blazing Sigil of Ordos (1)
	Rime of the Time-Lost Mariner (1)
	Partially-Digested Meal (1)
	Sticky Silkworm Goo (1)
	Condensed Jademist (1)
	Quivering Firestorm Egg (1)
	Pristine Stalker Hide (1)
	Odd Polished Stone (1)
	Glowing Green Ash (1)
	Gulp Froglet (1)
	Skunky Alemental (1)
	Jademist Dancer (1)
	Dandelion Frolicker (1)
	Azure Crane Chick (1)

	Warped Warning Sign (1)
	Crystal of Insanity (1)
	Forager's Gloves (1)
	Overgrown Lilypad (1)
	Bubbling Pi'jiu Brew (1)
	Misty Pi'jiu Brew (1)
	Ash-Covered Horn (1)
	Captain Zvezdan's Lost Leg (1)
	Golden Moss (1)
	Eternal Kiln (1)
	Sunset Stone (1)
	Blizzard Stone (1)
	Blackflame Daggers (1)
	Ordon Death Chime (1)
	Ordon Ceremonial Robes (1)
	Scuttler's Shell (1)
	Swarmling of Gu'chi (1)
	Faintly-Glowing Herb (1)
	Windfeather Plume (1)
	Reins of the Thundering Onyx Cloud Serpent (1)
	Glinting Pile of Stone (1)
	Glowing Blue Ash (1)
	Bonkers (1)
	Spineclaw Crab (1)
	Ominous Flame (1)
	Death Adder Hatchling (1)
	Ruby Droplet (1)
	Ashleaf Spriteling (1)

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Rares and Exploration in Nagrand Secrets of Pandaria Wowhead's Guide to the Timeless Isle

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