Use Raidbots to Find Your Best Great Vault DPS Upgrade in Dragonflight Season 3

Live Posted 3 days ago by Anshlun

SimulationCraft addonRaidbots

Reminder: Don't forget to check your loot spec before opening the Great Vault.

SimulationCraft addon/simcTop Gear

Open your Great Vault

Run /simc

Copy/paste to Top Gear

Select the Great Vault items

See which sims the best

GVDroptimizerGearing Advice and Best in Slot for All Classes

Blood DKFrost DKUnholy DK

Havoc DHVengeance DH

Guardian DruidFeral DruidBalance DruidRestoration Druid

Augmentation EvokerDevastation EvokerPreservation Evoker

BM HunterMM HunterSurvival Hunter

Arcane MageFire MageFrost Mage

Brewmaster MonkMistweaver MonkWindwalker Monk

Holy PaladinProtection PaladinRetribution Paladin

Discipline PriestHoly PriestShadow Priest

Assassination RogueOutlaw RogueSubtlety Rogue

Elemental ShamanEnhancement ShamanRestoration Shaman

Affliction WarlockDemonology WarlockDestruction Warlock

Arms WarriorFury WarriorProtection Warrior

Comment by TheBlackDognah fam i will pick what looks betterComment by Bravery2021That's quite interesting; I'll buy into it as long as it doesn't instruct me to choose between a ring and a neck... 😏Comment by Brogashwe are all just gonna get duplicates like allways since that is what the system is designed to give you for a higher chanceComment by Lightdark99Cant wait to get 2xNeck and 1x Ring as my optionsComment by Adradiadont have 4piece? take set item...
Dont have weapon? take weapon
everything else is ez pz itemlevel over allComment by TOMRUSThey offer only 300k iterations for free, which is way too low...Comment by jamesoliff#installPawnComment by ancineni
everything else is ez pz itemlevel over allComment by instigI am surprised Ask Mr Robot is never mentioned here.

I remember in Shadowlands, all I heard was: "Don't use AMR, Raidbots is much better. AMR doesn't know what it's talking about."

Then I tried both during Shadowlands. I remember Raidbots had a LOT of computation the more enchants and gems and gear you have, making it a lot harder to get a result. So I remember not adding a lot of the enchantments to the optimisation query because it made it take too long.

Then I switched to Ask Mr Robot, and it recommended me an enchant and gem that Raidbots didn't recommend me. I was really confused, I thought AMR was wrong. So I then queried the enchant and gem with Raidbots, and Raidbots recommended the same gem and enchant as Ask Mr Robot did, but because I didn't enable that option because of how computationally expensive it was, I would never have discovered that a certain enchant and gem was better.

I then looked at the great vault, and was getting the same recommendations from AMR as I was from Raid Bots, but with 10% the time waited.

Interesting how the bias towards one optimiser has led players to completely ignore the other equally viable option.

TL;dr

Ask Mr Robot is just as good as Raidbots, with 10% of the wait times, and it's a LOT cheaper too.Comment by Leon8220becareful with this because using programs like raidbots doesnt account for whats best for you in the long run, only for that day when you simm.Comment by MrPotatoHead#installPawnComment by lovelywazIn the first week (or even in 2nd), if there's a tier and you are NOT a Raider, you simply grab tier item. Then it's Weapon / Trinkets before you start "simming" from 3rd week onwards.

If you are one of those hardcore Raiders who may have ~~bought~~ been "lucky" with Tier/Weapons/Trinkets from Raids and high M+ keys, then you most likely already not only know about Raidbots but are either paid sub or have your own custom one set up in your PC.Comment by Kagronhow to sim aug evo :)Comment by Seniaadont have 4piece? take set item...
Dont have weapon? take weapon
everything else is ez pz itemlevel over allComment by SundercatI am surprised Ask Mr Robot is never mentioned here.

I remember in Shadowlands, all I heard was: "Don't use AMR, Raidbots is much better. AMR doesn't know what it's talking about."

Then I tried both during Shadowlands. I remember Raidbots had a LOT of computation the more enchants and gems and gear you have, making it a lot harder to get a result. So I remember not adding a lot of the enchantments to the optimisation query because it made it take too long.

Then I switched to Ask Mr Robot, and it recommended me an enchant and gem that Raidbots didn't recommend me. I was really confused, I thought AMR was wrong. So I then queried the enchant and gem with Raidbots, and Raidbots recommended the same gem and enchant as Ask Mr Robot did, but because I didn't enable that option because of how computationally expensive it was, I would never have discovered that a certain enchant and gem was better.

I then looked at the great vault, and was getting the same recommendations from AMR as I was from Raid Bots, but with 10% the time waited.

Interesting how the bias towards one optimiser has led players to completely ignore the other equally viable option.

TL;dr

Ask Mr Robot is just as good as Raidbots, with 10% of the wait times, and it's a LOT cheaper too.Comment by haunterwingyall really doing all that? XDComment by qaccyI'd say people think about gear way too hard, but they're not actually doing any thinking since it's all being done by computers. I still skip it though. I look at upgrade track first, stats second. Even for trinkets. No stat combo or trinket is so devastatingly bad that it's going to affect my performance that much as long as the ilvl is relevant. And I figure all that out without using addons or external tools!Comment by SundercatI'd say people think about gear way too hard, but they're not actually doing any thinking since it's all being done by computers. I still skip it though. I look at upgrade track first, stats second. Even for trinkets. No stat combo or trinket is so devastatingly bad that it's going to affect my performance that much as long as the ilvl is relevant. And I figure all that out without using addons or external tools!Comment by haunterwing"RAIDBOTS" what a trustworthy soundin fella XDComment by justgizI am surprised Ask Mr Robot is never mentioned here. Interesting how the bias towards one optimiser has led players to completely ignore the other equally viable option. Ask Mr Robot is just as good as Raidbots, with 10% of the wait times, and it's a LOT cheaper too.